Moral Tribes: Emotion, Reason, and the Gap Between Us and Them

Joshua Greene · Report shared May 31, 2021

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Introduction

Cooperation between groups is often undermined by self-interest or a group’s own sense of morality

The world is changing rapidly, but humans are still biologically much the same. Evolution has given us the skills to cooperate within groups, but unfortunately, our ability to cooperate between groups still leaves much to be desired. The history of conflict is enough to tell us that.

Greene begins with a hypothetical discussion of tribes (Northerners, Southerners etc.) that have very different culture (individual vs collectivist for example) and thus different moralities.

Mutually beneficial cooperation is endangered by many things, but the clearest threat is what’s known as the tragedy of the commons, which is the conflict between self-interest and collective interest. Also, problems can arise about the boundaries about our respective collectives.

A second threat to mutually beneficial cooperation is known as the tragedy of commonsense morality. This time it’s a question of Us Versus Them. In other words, one group sets its own values against those of another. So you have 2 groups who are fighting for what each side thinks is common sense morality.

His goals are to explain how morality works in the brain and how it got to be that way, and, much more ambitiously, to turn this understanding into a universal moral philosophy that all humans can share.

Cooperation becomes challenging when individual and collective interest are neither perfectly aligned or perfectly opposed. There’s always some tension between me and others, so it’s always in danger of eroding.

Morality is a set of psychological adaptations that allow otherwise selfish individuals to reap the benefits of cooperation. It evolved to enable cooperation. But it evolved to just work within our small groups, not broadly, as a device for intergroup cooperation.

So what we need in the modern world is a metamorality, something that can resolve disputes between competing groups with different moralities.

If we understand how our moral machinery works, we can understand how it fails us, and intervene. Here are some principles by which our moral machinery operates:

-Family values: we value our kin, this can be extended a bit into our close in-group

-Tit for tat: our primate relatives engage in this kind of conditional cooperation, and it’s been shown to be one of the most stable cooperation strategies in computer simulations. As long as there’s the capacity for forgiveness of occasional missteps.

-Besties: we’re inclined to care about individuals with whom we have cooperative futures, typically judged based on cooperation in the past. We call this friendship.

-minimal decency: we don’t want to see others, even unrelated others, in unnecessary pain. It makes us uncomfortable, especially if we cause it.

So we’re a caring species, albeit in a limited way, and especially towards those we’re related to or friends with. We don’t usually like to harm strangers, and we’re willing to help strangers as long as it doesn’t cost us much.

In addition, threats and promises, as well as a predisposition for building and valuing loyalty are helpful cooperation tools we’ve evolved. Human societies the world over spend a huge amount of time gossiping. This likely evolved as a mechanism of enforcing cooperation.

Membership into groups often drives our cooperative behavior. Some of it is more built in than others. Like t-shirt color (of 2) was easily confused in one experiment where participants had to keep track of the behavior of several actors, but sex was much less commonly mixed up.

Religion may be a device that evolved to enable cooperation in large groups.

Tribes fight for two main reasons: preferring in group members over out group members, and having different fundamental ideas of what is morally right.

The trolley problem, and variations on it, helps us ask the important question: When, and why, do the rights of an individual take precedence over the greater good?

Patients with VMPFC damage are more likely to give “utilitarian” response even in personal versions of the footbridge problem (like pushing the man onto the tracks instead of flipping the switch). They’re more likely to do this even when it’s killing their own family members. Amygdala activity also correlates positively with how likely people are to report negative feelings about the utilitarian response in the trolley problem.

When people make utilitarian decisions, they exhibit increased activity in the DLPFC (associated with top-down control).

Greene introduces the dual process theory of morality. We have an automatic, emotional mode (VMPFC and amygdala) that tends to favor rule-based actions, like shouldn’t hurt another person on purpose. Manual tends to favor utilitarian judgment. These modes can produce conflicting results.

He thinks utilitarianism get a bad reputation as being too stark and austere, so he’s calling it deep pragmatism.

He spends a lot of time defending utilitarianism against various objections. Yes happiness is hard to quantify exactly, but we can get close enough to use it functionally, just from self report. Happiness isn’t just hedonism, includes long term fulfillment.

Utilitarianism views everyone’s happiness as exactly equal.

Who decides how to maximize happiness. Greene says just like anything else, democratically.

There are some proposed models for approaching moral truth: religious model, the mathematical model, and the scientific model. None of these will work, says Greene. Instead we’ll need to settle for a more modest meta-morality, that enables us to coexist, whether or not it’s the moral truth.

Religion won’t work because people have different religious beliefs. Math won’t work because there aren’t any self-evident moral truths, there are no moral axioms. Math will only help us be more consistent in how we apply moral principles. What about science? He means evolution. Should we just behave how our moral programming predisposes us to behave? No because we don’t live in that kind of world anymore.

Surprise, it’s utilitarianism. He thinks this is the native philosophy of the manual mode anyway.

“Human empathy is fickle and limited, but our capacity for empathy may provide an emotional seed that, when watered by reasoning, flowers into the ideal of impartial morality.”

Where does our recognition that impartiality is good come from? Might be that it’s just a stable solution. Might be a cognitive leap, the collision of empathy and the recognition that no one is objectively special.

But is utilitarianism a happiness pump? Does it require that you bleed out your resources until all resources are equitably distributed?

In the trolley problem, people care if the victim is harmed through direct application of personal force vs something indirect like flipping a switch. People also care if the person is harmed as a means (used as a trolley stopper) or a side effect (collateral damage). But these aren’t consistently applied principles, and depend on the specifications of the example.

Green introduces the modular myopia hypothesis of moral judgment: our brains sound an alarm at the prospect of harming others, but it’s myopic (short sighted) in that it can’t see collateral damage well, only indirect damage. So we end up reasoning in the trolley problem in inconsistent ways if the situation is tweaked a bit, because we’re using this imperfect module.

Our brains also make a distinction between doing and allowing, but from a utilitarian perspective, they’re equivalent.

Is utilitarianism a happiness pump? Greene says no because that type of thing would never actually work in the real world, and so wouldn’t actually lead to a better outcome practically speaking. What a cop out! Just like you can have a healthy diet without eating only maximally healthful foods.

“trying to be a perfect utilitarian is in fact, a very un-utilitarian thing to do.”

“If what utilitarianism asks you to do seems absurd, then it’s not what utilitarianism actually asks of you…it’s an inherently practical philosophy, and there’s nothing more impractical than commanding free people to do things that strike them as absurd and that run counter to their most basic motivations.”

Our ideas of rights and duties are the manual mode’s attempt to translate elusive feelings into more object-like things that it can understand and manipulate. When you appeal to rights, you’re not helping to resolve the issue. Instead you’re pretending that the issue has already been resolved in some abstract realm to which you and your tribespeople have special access.

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